Even at the Deal price, they aren't worth it unless you want something for a costume. Battle worthy they really are not. My first encounter with these were 10 or 11 years ago and I thought they were good. As I learned more about armor, I realized that these would not work for most applications, at least nothing historical so I sold them and commissioned an armorer to make some just for me. For not much more than full price on these I had a set of custom bracers that were fitted to me. It's the only way to go if you seek to do armored combat.