These are really kinda crappy.Bad welds,corrosion,and unfinished edges . Also HUGE!!! Like Titan sized.Too big even to use as greaves!!! YO! India! All Americans are not grossly freakin' obese! Even if I wore a SUPER puffy SNOWSUIT still way,way,WAY too large.Sigh.Windlass,wtf? Sending these back as well.Boo Hiss!!